Wimbledon vs …them: Not Something To Get “Excited” About


Ian began writing Twohundredpercent in May 2006. He lives in Brighton. He has also written for, amongst others, Pitch Invasion, FC Business Magazine, The Score, When Saturday Comes, Stand Against Modern Football and The Football Supporter. Ian was the first winner of the Socrates Award For Not Being Dead Yet at the 2010 NOPA awards for football bloggers.

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15 Responses

  1. Rob says:

    ‘although most have stopped short of the crassest comment of all, to say that this is “the match that everybody wants to see”’

    ITV didn’t stop short, when the draw was made, almsot suggesting it was match to see who was the “real Wimbledon”.

    ‘Could the police guarantee the safety of those that have come to support the other lot if this match was to be played under normal circumstances?’

    Or, considering the violence of the other team, when they lost to Shrewsbury in the playoffs a few years back.

    Personally I hope AFC Wimbledon turn down any approach for the potential game to be televised, because if Ebbsfleet won their replay, Ebbsfleet v Franchise would still be televised and it would still give Pete Wankerman the opportunity to have a televised charm offensive should the Franchise beat Stevenage. Not to mention that it would stop the Franchise receiving TV money.

    Also, considering that the gate receipts are split between the two sides, how many Wimbledon fans are going to want to turn up, knowing that part of their ticket money will go to the people that killed Wimbledon FC? Let’s hope the Police give AFCW an excuse to hold the game behind closed doors.

  2. curranhung says:

    It’s very significant that it’s the Franchise customers who are relishing the prospect of a match between us and them. They are completely uncontrite and unrepentant and oblivious as to why they are so reviled by so many football fans. On their soon-to-be defunct forum, the Moocamp, some even talk of being “proud” of their club’s achievements.

    AFCW fans, like Rob and me, regard their “club” as illegitimate and therefore the result of any match between us would be irrelevant.

    As to the talk of “rivalry” – I am really relishing the return match away to Crawley and will definitely go if I can. That’s a rivalry. On the other hand, the thought of a match with Franchise makes me feel quite sick. I hope that we never have to play them and that they will go out of business before any possible meeting in the League.

  3. Martin says:

    The security bill alone will seriously reduce the profit either club receives from such a game.

    Another good reason many Wimbledon fans would have been much happier to have been drawn against any proper club instead.

    I don’t think you can totally refuse the invitation to be televised (as I assume this nonsense would be) as it is one of the conditions of entry to the cup competition.

    They are not rivals. They are not a football club. They are the now-pointless enabling part of a supermarket property development.

  4. Dermot O'Dreary says:

    Sadly, if it happens, the only ones to gain will be Wankerman and his band of football club thieves – even if they lose the match. There are more than enough twats in teh football media who’ll give him the publicity he adores and his chance to presnet himself as the saviour of Wimbledon FC and the big grown-up who’s put the past behind him and is prepared to extend the hand of friendship whilst AFC will be painted as Luddites who did nothing to save their club and are refusing to forgive and forget.

  5. Jertzee says:

    I am gettins sick of telling people that it is NOT a match I want to see, and they get upset and a little shocked when I tell them all I want is for Franchise FC to die.

    Only when they die will I get any closure.

  6. Alan J says:

    When the draw came out I thought it would be the game AFCW fans have wanted to happen, but after reading this blog plus a couple of others, I can now see it is the game AFC wouldn’t have wanted in a million years, as it’s a game a club, which really, shouldn’t exist, in their plastic stadium, as it kind of legitimises them. Also, if the game is televised, you can bet Wankleman and his cronies in front of the TV hyping the game up.

    I like millions of others would like to see Franchise go out of business, and I hate that Sky keeps on interviewing Wankleman and that the FA have put their plastic stadium down on a shortlist for 2018.

  7. Danny Last says:

    I interviewed a Dons Trust Board member sometime ago, and this issue came up. Here was his response:

    It won’t be long before you’re playing MK Dons on a level playing field. Surely chaos would ensue at that fixture? It’s a fixture I never really want to see happen. An away game there would probably split our support – many (like me) wouldn’t set foot inside Stadium:MK, some would travel but not enter the ground and others would actually want to see the match. A home game would see a bear pit atmosphere and make Galatasaray look like a genteel afternoon at county cricket by comparison. I’m not even sure I could trust myself to behave. Though I’m sure the likes of Sky Sports would lap it up.

    The full interview is here: http://europeanfootballweekends.blogspot.com/2010/02/afc-wimbledon-part-1.html

  8. Dave says:

    An unacknowledged factor here will be how the Franchise sympathisers’ lies will inflame things.

    Because no-one likes to admit they are the product of theft, they cling to the notion that somehow, MK saved Wimbledon. This was Winkleman’s great lie, a repeat of Koppel’s deceit. As a result, they come out with the idea that Wimbledon fans were complicit in their own victimhood by somehow failing the team.

    This is just so, so very wrong it hurts. But when the thing you’re being blamed for still hurts, it’s actually inflammatory. Being told that instead of being a victim, you were actually the perpetrator. Instead of someone being the beneficiary of theft, they were the saviour – nay liberator – of the club.

    Most neutrals don’t buy this, of course, and the battle over the morality of the tale was pretty much done and dusted. But there is a corner of England where this truth never took hold, namely Milton Keynes. And everyone else, considering them pariahs, never needed to know how much they clung to the lie, and so its continued profession as an article of faith has gone unnoticed.

    But should AFC Wimbledon meet them, the media will come back as be as boneheadedly neutral as it was 8 years ago, and will treat both tales as equally plausible and factually correct (like climate change vs nothing to see here, evolution vs intelligent design etc) and so the great lie will get a great airing again. And will drive AFC Wimbledon rightly bonkers, because when the wounds get re-opened, to repeat the lie is to pour salt into them then give it a good old squeeze.

    If the coverage of this fixture could fix the situation, could nail the lie, then maybe – maybe – some good might come out of, but that would be to entrust ITV with the ability, sensitivity and understanding that anyone who has watched its football output for 15 years know they simply don’t possess.

  9. Rob says:

    @curranhung – I’m not a Wimbledon fan, I’m one of what sadly appears to be a slowly diminishing number of “neutrals” who will never forget how the Franchise came to be, not to mention that I have friends who are Wimbledon fans, and knew what their reactions would be beforehand.

    Also my club are in the same TV region as the Franchise, and we get “treated” to Wankerman’s inane grinning face, and vile greasy hair on a regular basis, and because he’s the most media savvy chairman outside the Premiership, sports editors like Kevin Piper think he’s great as he’ll always give them a story.

    @Martin – don’t forget the fuss hen FCUM accepted the TV invitation. Clubs get the power of veto in the League and the Cup, because they may want to play the tie on a specific day, or avoid playing too close to another fixture.

  10. Dermot O'Dreary says:

    Rob – fear not, you’re not alone !!

    One of the most distasteful aspects to this whole sorry saga was the way in which the regional media so uncritically welcomed the franchise without a scrap of consideration for the impact it would have on the long-established teams in the area. The local BBC radio station in particular has totally fallen for them, and woe betride anyone who dares to say anything about the disgusting circumstances of how this team ended up in our area.

    Not to mention the truly nauseating amount of arse-licking that they gives to the greasy haired scumbag of a chairman.

  11. Albert Ross says:

    The problem as I see it for AFCW fans is trying to keep a lid on the resentment they (rightly) feel for Franchise. This day was bound to come at some point – the only way it wouldn’t come round would be if Franchise were liquidated. And any game between the two sides is automatically going to attract a lot of media interest. All it will take is a couple of unsavoury incidents and the media will pile in, all too likely on the side of the media-savvy Winkelman. The hope would have to be that AFCW and their fans would show the sort of spirit that their opponents lack in positive ways rather than negative….

  12. Mark Murphy says:

    A key to the atmosphere on the day is the attitude of Franchise’s travelling support – and the make-up of same.

    I’m not suggesting they all wear mascara but how many of them are young Milton Keynes locals who started supporting the team when it arrived and are not aware to any significant extent of the wrongs and wrongs of their club’s birth?

    I’ve written before that eventually Franchise will be the bolthole for local fans who want to see league football and that the football community in general will have to live with that (although they don’t have to like it). I’m wondering how far down that road we are at the moment. Not very far, I suspect.

    Anyway: ideal scenario? Wimbldeon reach the third round with a well-earned 2-0 win over……….Stevenage (sorry Boro’ fans, nothing personal).

  13. Micky says:

    Let’s just hope Stevenage win then, problem solved!

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