Diagnosis: Merthyr

Ian

Ian began writing Twohundredpercent in May 2006. He lives in Brighton. He has also written for, amongst others, Pitch Invasion, FC Business Magazine, The Score, When Saturday Comes, Stand Against Modern Football and The Football Supporter. Ian was the first winner of the Socrates Award For Not Being Dead Yet at the 2010 NOPA awards for football bloggers.

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12 Responses

  1. JBJ says:

    Lichtenstein is an autonomous state, although leaning heavily on the shoulders of Switzerland and Austria, whilst Wales is a country within a state and so not much unlike say Basque Country (autonomus part of Spain and part of a larger Basque region including a section in France). I think Aluns judgement was a fair one although it is always hard to judge what FIFA will do.

  2. ejh says:

    In fact the Basque Country is not recognised as a country as such, not by the Spanish Constitution anyway. Spain sees itself as a nation, not as a collection of nations in the sense of the UK. (I just report this, I don’t necessarily agree with it.)

  3. Thank you for this article; I learned some things. However, I don’t understand what that one-word-change in the FA’s rules was.

  4. Rob says:

    Bill – the original rule was:

    Council will use the following criteria, and any other conditions in Council’s absolute discretion, in deciding whether to approve the transfer of membership by a Full Member Club or an Associate Member Club:
    .
    .
    (iii) all other creditors of the existing Full Member Club or Associate Member Club
    must be satisfied and evidenced as such;

    the new rule is

    Council may use the following criteria, and any other conditions in Council’s absolute discretion, in deciding whether to approve the transfer of membership by a Full Member Club or an Associate Member Club:
    .
    .
    (iii) all other creditors of the existing Full Member Club or Associate Member Club
    must be satisfied and evidenced as such;

    In other words, before the rule change, without satisfying Wyn Holloway, who ran the bills up in the first place, the reformed club would not have been accepted. Now, the FA may allow a reformed club that does not satisfy all existing creditors at it’s own discretion, as it did first with Chester City, and now with Merthyr Town.

    It’s also how the FA could accept Stephen Vaughan’s reformed Chester City last summer, while fining the Conference for accepting Chester City as a club (who hadn’t changed their similar rule).

  5. Oxo says:

    Thanks for the article, we’re just happy to be playing football at Merthyr. There is still a long way to go before we get back to familiar surroundings but at least the club is back in the hands of those who love it the most – the fans.

    Great day at Telford yesterday, it was good to meet you guys there.

  6. OK, thanks very much for clearing that up for me.

  7. Elmslie says:

    As pointed out by JBJ, Liechtenstein are a country, but Wales is just a part of a country. Why UK chooses to have regional club competitions (and FAs) instead of a national one is an internal matter. As is choosing the clubs to represent UK in the euro competitions from these regional championships. UEFA should not allow representatives from all the regions to their competitions.

  8. ejh says:

    No, Wales is a country that is part of a larger state.

  9. Martin says:

    Wales has never been a country, but I understand why some people like to pretend that it is.

  10. George Street-Bridge says:

    Best possible luck to Merthyr. Just to correct one very small point in the historical record – Merthyr were given an exemption and were always allowed to stay playing in Wales in the English pyramid. Newport, Colwyn Bay and Caernarfon took the court case. Caernarfon eventually joined the League of Wales/Welsh Premier – their record since doesn’t suggest it has been a land of opportunity.

  11. Dr Obnoxious says:

    Well were 10 months in to running our new club at Merthyr. The season at taffs well has been a great success – Crowds have not dropped and the Trust (now the club) have run the club so no losses have been incurred. We’re top of the Western Division 1st division, scoring over 100 goals and on saturday should confirm promotion – the week after the championship.
    next season we return to Penydarren Park in the premier division of the western division – still two leagues below where we went pop – but the feeling around MTFC is now one of excitment and a galvanised single core of supporters (this includes the staff and players). We know the future is in our hands and all the money entering the clubs doors are being used for the benefit of the football club. Trabsparency is there and the club will flourish.

  1. July 24, 2010

    [...] Diagnosis: Merthyr “One of the perceived anomalies in European club football is the presence of the six Welsh clubs in the English league system. What a lot of people don’t realise, however, is that historically the Football League was the pinnacle of a system that encompassed both England and Wales, and that prior to the launch of the Football Conference in 1979, Welsh football clubs mainly competed in regional leagues that were the pinnacle of non-league football in England and Wales.” (twohundredpercent) [...]

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