World Cup 2010: Germany 4-1 England


Ian began writing Twohundredpercent in May 2006. He lives in Brighton. He has also written for, amongst others, Pitch Invasion, FC Business Magazine, The Score, When Saturday Comes, Stand Against Modern Football and The Football Supporter. Ian was the first winner of the Socrates Award For Not Being Dead Yet at the 2010 NOPA awards for football bloggers.

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21 Responses

  1. Brenton says:

    I’m actually looking for to Premier League action, but only because my local is packed with World Cup watchers and I can’t get a seat anymore.

    I was surprised to hear a call for Capello’s resignation already, but he did pick the team that fell apart. Ledley King lasted a half a game, and England lacked width and creativity. It’s time to give Michael Johnson and a few others a shot now that Lampard et al have shown they don’t have what it takes.

  2. Noshow says:

    Well said (written).

    Sadly for England the post mortem will undoubtedly focus on the one incident when really it should be focused on the four.

    Aside from the obvious match ups this game was a contrast of selction policies too; a youthful Germany who selected form players because they had to (due to injuries), up against the same old suspects for England and the same old problems.

    Something needs to change drastically for England, whether it be the way the game is taught at the grass roots level, the way players are developed, right through to the way the national team is selected.

    Perhaps, dare I say it, England should look at copying the German model because they continue to amass an enviable record at World Cups whilst England continue to dissapoint.

  3. tom hallahan says:

    “a youthful Germany who selected form players”

    – you mean like Klose and Podolski who have really torn up the bundesliga in the four years since the last world cup.
    There are some players that are great club players, some are great for their country, and a special few that do it for both. Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney fall into the former group, Klose, Podolski into the latter. Only Spain and Argentina seem to have an abundance of great club and international players. And hence, one of them will win it.

  4. Albert Ross says:

    We can only hope that the players will finally stop believing their own publicity, but somehow I doubt it – even post-match it sounded like they really thought they would have gone on to win if Lampard’s “goal” had been awarded.

    The main problem for me is that the Premier League wields too much power and automatically oppose any moves that might force them to actually try and develop young English players rather than signing another European player. Even the academies at some clubs seem to be full of non-England qualified players – how then can England prosper?

  5. Noshow says:

    @ tom hallahan:

    Fair point Tom, you’ve picked the two players who don’t fit my generalisation of the German squad.

    Unfortunately I could name a dozen in the England camp that fit yours, hence I made the comparison of the two squads in that way to prove the point.

  6. algeria da best says:

    Wonderful post. Apart from the Slovenia match, England have been lifeless. It would have been better for them if they had talked less and worked more. Capello didnt know how to make his squad into a team that works together, he doesnt suit the way England play. I think with the squad he had, he could have beeten the Germans and maybe Argentina in the last 8. He is a big coach and didnt suit the English type of play. The English players where probably tired after a long season and didnt work enough to play as a team, that all ended up in the shameful performance they managed to kick up. Just wait for the Premier League and enjoy Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard and Lampard to star again, they’ll go back to normal type of play they are used to and a beautiful type of play it is too. Argentina have the points England need, they have stars who star for both their country and their clubs and they dont even have a good manager. Germany played well and deserved the win. History just made stuff fair the goal that was never scored in 1966 was counted and the goal that was scored wasent counted. Though, I am sure if it was counted England could have won. I wish there where robots instead of our human referee’s who make terrible mistakes.

  7. Iain says:

    Just found this website yesterday and love it, Great post! I’m still in disbelief that England couldn’t see this coming though, taking into account their woeful group performances. A humiliating defeat at the hands of ze Germans was probably the best outcome as it forces the realisation that they cannot just pick the big names and hope for the best. However, they will predictably blame it on the Lampard goal that could’ve been and keep on being mediocre…ignoring the fact they were outplayed from kickoff. I’m glad you also noticed Mark Lawrenson getting more irate as time went on, it made for humorous listening that was better than his usual inane punditry.
    Anyways keep up the good work dudes, looking forward to more posts!

  8. Germany was still the better team. Yes they were younger but they played way better anyways.

  9. j yashin d says:

    Top post. Poor decision. Terrible England. You said that a lot of people watching the game where glad it ended 4v1, but I wanted a fifth or sixth to knock some more sense into England. England have been coasting for the past 4 years, avoiding an out and out humiliation like I witnessed yesterday. We had been dire in the previous World Cup, and had never meet a team of true quality, and I am including Portugal, only making it to the Q/F. Had been dire in the qualification of the 2008 Euro Championships, and finally we were undone by a rather good German side in 2010. We can’t say we never saw it coming, in fact its about bloody time.

  10. Alex says:

    Germany, by the way, for the win. I think they’re up for the cup.

  11. Oliver Gottmann says:

    The facts are as follows;
    1) The England players have a superiority complex, brought in at a young age whilst coming through the ranks, and go around thinking they just have to turn up to beat teams on the international stage. They believe the EPL is the only league in the world and dont understand the game. This is as much the fault of the coaches at Grassroots as the players themselves. Of course the media have a lot to answer for aswell but anyone who reads those rag papers and watch Sky TV are disillusioned individuals.
    2)The players are not that good! Wayne Rooney had an excellent season but comparing him to Messi, Ronaldo or laughably, Péle, is a joke. Gerrard has played one good international game in his career. Terry is overhyped, looked upon as a hard man and die-hard player, which is another joke, expecially considering his last season for chelsea. The list can go on.

    The coaching system in England needs to be overhauled completely. The next generation will be the same useless mess as this one so it is down to the following geeneration to be brought up with an understanding of the real world, appreciate what they have and recognise they fans are the only reason they are anything.

    I would suggest that the english squad open a fund and put money in, all of which shopuld be used to compensate those poor english fans that paid to go and watch that tripe.

    Ollie -Irish man

  12. Dermot O'Dreary says:

    “Perhaps this result is what English football needs. A dose of humility will do England – the team and the country – no harm at all. Perhaps the Football Association will learn from it, will put all other projects on hold until the broken youth development system is fixed. Perhaps the press will learn a bitter lesson from their tone towards Germany (which has – and if this sounds like damning with faint praise, it’s because it is – only moved from being abusive to borderline abusive over the last decade and a half or so) and will treat their opponents with a little more respect in the future. Perhaps the clubs will see the potential benefits to the game in Britain from working with the national team rather than seeking control of the FA for their own malign purposes. Or perhaps the Premier League will start again in seven weeks time and all of this will be forgotten.”

    If only – the only part of that paragraph likely to come true is the last sentence.

    By August we’ll have had 6 weeks of Sky-hype to remind us what genuis, world-class players the likes of Stevie G, Wazza, JT and Lamps are and the deluded masses can convince themselves that Euro 2012 might as well be cancelled as there’s only one contender …

  13. ejh says:

    Only Spain and Argentina seem to have an abundance of great club and international players. And hence, one of them will win it.

    Brazil may also be among the possible contenders.

  14. Stanley says:

    Looking at the achievements of this squad over the course of their international careers, it has done no more and no less than the sum of its abilities. While the squad has a few players of quality, there are not enough for England to be real contenders. The deficiencies of the team have been glaringly obvious for some time: no first-choice goalkeeper, a slow defence, non-defending full-backs, a dearth of imagination in midfield, no reliable goalscorer, and so on. If the football establishment in this country wants success (ie. trophies, rather than increased viewing figures in Singapore), there must be a radical overhaul of the entire system. Unfortunately, short-term thinking pervades the English game.

  15. RichardG says:

    Given the age of many in the German team, how good are they likely to be for the Euro’s in 2012? On the World Cup in 2014? By that time Ozil will 25 with 4 more years of experience behind him; Mueller will be 24! Good God, what are WE going to put up against them?

  16. algeria da best says:

    @ Alex: Argentina will win Germany in the last 8, and they will win the World Cup, Brazil and spain can win the tournament. But I think Argentina will win it :-). If Germany win they’ll loose in the Semi or the Final.

  17. Bobbles says:

    Changing the coach will make no difference. We’ve tried the best, the most expensive. We tried Mclaren, who had done very well with Middlesborough, and has proved again with Twente Entschede he is a great coach.

    So the common denominator is what? We’re not good enough? We’re too tired by the time the WC comes round? (even though no English players got beyond the CL quarters, and had 4 weeks rest & prep before the WC started). The media pressure?

    Reality is, we’re not so good, really. We just about beat Slovenia and we were getting excited. Hello? We have a very expensive domestic league, which can buy in the best players in the world. There are only 2 or 3 world class Englishmen in that League – A. Cole, Rooney & Gerrard for me.

    Beneath that, a lot of average players, who are not well coached – very fit, very powerful, but no touch, and no brains.

    Only solution is long-term – stop subscribing to Sky, stop giving the PL your money, the foreigners will stop coming in such numbers, and English players will get the chance to come through.

    Then it’s about what those English players learn.

    Ensure, not that all coaches have UEFA ‘A’ or whatever it’s called, but rather that the content of any mandatory coaching badge forces coaches to give young players 75% ball time, rather than practicing set pieces endlessly, and running them round the pitch. If the UEFA ‘A’ doesn’t stipulate this, the FA can insist on extra requirements in England.

    It will take 15 years – but where else do we go?

  18. Oliver Gottmann says:

    There’s an excellent video on youtube with the legendary Craig Johnson talking about the state of the English youth set-up. He says how he did a two year study and handed it to the FA who completely disregarded it. Tells you a lot.

  19. Neil says:

    I’m going to leave this article here.

    Brilliant dissection of the New English Disease.

  20. JOCK says:


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