Trying To Make Some Sense Of Germany vs England

Ian

Ian began writing Twohundredpercent in May 2006. He lives in Brighton. He has also written for, amongst others, Pitch Invasion, FC Business Magazine, The Score, When Saturday Comes, Stand Against Modern Football and The Football Supporter. Ian was the first winner of the Socrates Award For Not Being Dead Yet at the 2010 NOPA awards for football bloggers.

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8 Responses

  1. Dar says:

    Germany are the favorite, but from what I read, England has the advantage in their historical meetings, winning more than Germany?

  2. The impending media onslaught we must now endure was the main reason I much preferred a tie against Ghana rather than Germany. Having a fierce rival is all very well, but when that rivalry swiftly descends into cheap shots bordering on racism, is defined by an ignorant understanding of history, and when that rivalry is virtually all one way, it starts to feel quite pitiful.

  3. Matt says:

    “an easily caricaturable “enemy” against whom we once won a war” … I’m pretty sure The SUN mentioned that it was TWO World Wars we beat them in … ;)

    (Possibly proving all your points in one sentence).

  4. algeria da best says:

    If England want to win, they need to put up a BIG performance. Even the performance against Slovenia isent good enough. They have to score an early goal and avoid the penalties which are Englands weakest points and in which the Germans are really good at. Personally, I think both teams have a chance of winnig but the Germans have been playing better than England, but England can do much better. I really hope England go through and beat the Germans but then they might play Argentina after Ghana and I dont think they can win Argentina. But good luck for them!

  5. Thankfully, the anti-German feeling appears to be lessened this time round with the English media fulsomely praising this bright young German team whereas yesteryear, the likes of Voeller, Brehme, Matthaus, Briegel et al were depicted as demonic teutons and the now entirely rehabilitated Klinsmann was castigated for diving. The downsides I have seen have been the probably tactical ploy of quoting Beckenbauer out of context (a handy few lines to post up on the dresisng room wall) and occasional wartime references from the tabloids, the unspeakably comic Daily Star being the worst offender.

    I think Jermain Defoe has shown promise before, notably in a friendly in Amsterdam last year when England came from behind. It will probably be horses for courses as far as Capello is concerned though – he has often looked like he will pick a team based on the opposition and might prefer the physical might of Heskey in an attempt to dominate the gangly Mertesacker (he did score in the 2001 game of course.

  6. Brenton says:

    And I just read that most German fans don’t even know they have a rivalry with you. Instead, they focus their energies on the great Germany-Netherlands rivalry.

  7. RichardG says:

    Ahh, the morning after the night before. Actually Brenton, I’d heard that myself; I caught a radio interview with a German fan, who when asked about the ‘great rivalry’ with England seemed quite bemused. His comment was that Germany’s greatest rival isn’t England at all, it’s the Netherlands.

    Anyway, we were crap, and the best team won by a country mile; and please, let’s not have any of that ‘if the goal had been given we’d have won’ nonsense; we wouldn’t.

  8. j. says:

    Thank you.

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