Are The Wheels Falling Off The Notts Wagon?

Ian

Ian began writing Twohundredpercent in May 2006. He lives in Brighton. He has also written for, amongst others, Pitch Invasion, FC Business Magazine, The Score, When Saturday Comes, Stand Against Modern Football and The Football Supporter. Ian was the first winner of the Socrates Award For Not Being Dead Yet at the 2010 NOPA awards for football bloggers.

You may also like...

15 Responses

  1. Chris Taylor says:

    Why is it always someone else’s fault?

  2. Paul says:

    @Magpie.
    How can Supporter’s Direct be responsible for the problems you outline? I don’t recall Rushden & Diamonds and Stockport County’s fans calling this excellent organisation when the experiment of a Fans Trust trying to run a professional football club was less than successful because of an inability to attract additional sponsorship and in the Diamonds case a reluctance by their bankers to grant an overdraft facility.

  3. Dave says:

    Magpie – would you care to outline what specific powers the rules governing Notts County Trust gave Supporters Direct the power to overrule the members and owners of the trust and get rid of people those members had elected (and later kept in post)?

  4. Michael Wood says:

    SD is not to blame for Notts County the supporters of Notts County are and while one is suppose to feel for the fans of any club who may not survive – and my take on the situation is that unless they find a buyer soon who really does have oil billions or the move on a dozen top earners in the window – but I struggle to care a jot for supporters who gave their club away so they could laud and idolise Lee Hughes.

  5. sds06 says:

    Lets be fair it was never going to last. In my heart Notts would have been knocking on the door of the premiership, my head told me different. If sven decides to buy into the club it shows he was always genuinely committed and not after the fast buck. If he doesn’t the very least he has done is brought a great deal of publicicty to the club. Look to the positives. There will be no danger of relegation this year, for the past few years it has often been a last day escape. We have better gate receipts which means more money. People will feel dissappointed and the phrase ‘i told you so’ will be thrown about everywhere. But if the same ‘middle eastern billionaire’ offer came as what we had in July came to Accrington or Bournemouth, fans would have embraced it and started to dream, as what most Notts fans did, be it long term fans or fans who came to the club after July. What we should be thankful for is, for all the debacle that has been going on, we have a good side that is knocking on the door of promotion and through various assets more financially secure than we have for some time.
    However, after all said and done, Notts future certainly for the short to mid term is safe thanks to all the publicity, so it can’t all be bad. And who knows, maybe we can get upto the championship in 5 years with good old fashioned good management and hard work

  6. ejh says:

    and how it missed a £400,000 tax bill that had gone unpaid

    That’s one of the bonuses about writing about football finance – you get to write lines like that.

  7. Alan J says:

    The only ones to be blamed for this mess are the County fans that were hoodwinked. Supporters Direct couldn’t do anything, as due to the ‘one member, one vote’ scenario, and the fact that the Notts Trust’s own members voted to give them to Munto, says that they are entirely to blame. Most outsiders thought that this whole deal didn’t look right from the outset, and unfortunately that is how it is being proved.

  8. mick says:

    Cheer up Pies – looks like Peter Storrie will be on the market soon.

  9. Paul D says:

    @Magpie, I’m not surprised you’re so bitter. As Ian says, you’ve been hoodwinked and proper led down the garden path. And as someone looking at it from the outside, I wouldn’t quibble with your description of your former Trust board as weak and incompetent. And as I am looking from the outside, I’m in no position to comment on whether they did as you say lie, cheat etc. But corrupt? That’s a very strong word, and one which I’d hope you can either substantiate or be prepared to withdraw.

    And btw what everyone else said re Kevin Rye and SD. From my own personal experience, SD and Kevin are extremely competent, professional and their advice was invaluable to us at Swindon in some extremely difficult times which threatened the very future of the club. As I say, I understand why you’re so bitter, but in this instance your bile is misdirected. Best of luck to all Notts County fans in pulling together to help get yourselves out of this mess.

  10. Rob says:

    The tax bill ended up being £150k in the end. The Notts Supporters Trust had agreed a repayment schedule with the Inland Revenue, because of the delay in receiving money for Leon Best and David McGoldrick from Southampton (who were in administration). Why Munto’s millionaires didn’t make the scheduled payments, preventing any need for a winding up order, is anyone’s guess.

    sds06 – Not sure where to start, but whan you were Trust owned, you could only spend the money that was coming in. Munto have committed to spending vast amount on player wages for at least the next six months (Lee Hughes is on a two year deal, Kasper Schmiechel signed a reputed five year contract). With Munto not exactly being being prudent on the wage front, any new owners need to cover all costs being met, reduce the wage bill by weakening the team – or even take the administration route to draw a line under the sand. A 10 point deduction at this point would drop Notts to 17th.

    Alan J – There are other people at fault – those doing the hoodwinking. They are not blameless in this at all, in fact, regardless of how the Notts fans have acted, the likes of Munto are the ones most at fault.

    And I’d like to echo what others have said about Kevin Rye and SD. The game would be a lot, lot poorer without them.

  11. Rob C says:

    What a surprise! Shady sounding businessmen turned out to be shady businessmen.

  12. Wheelbarrow says:

    I am afraid I agree with Magpie. During the early 2009 civil war SD and Kevin in particular were unhelpful, obstructive and obsessed with maintaining the status quo. When four former Chairs of an established Trust are begging for help they need more than to be patronised and referred to the rule book. The failure at that point to address the real problems within the Trust Board led to the embarrasing spectacle of Trust SD’s publically rubbishing Trust ownership whilst Kevin looked on from the back of the room.

    It is of concern to the entire Trust movement that when Trusts are in real trouble SD are unwilling or unable to intervene.

  13. Wyre Forest Red says:

    Every day I dutifully clear my Spam E-Mail folder of offers ranging from free holidays, free Ipods all the way to “untold riches”. Somewhere along the line I might possibly (although very unlikely) have deleted a genuine dream ticket…… go on… who thinks it likely? I always give a sagely shake of the head, knowing that these E-mails are only sent because some people are daft enough to bite……. and in this case it was the Notts County fans, believing things that simply were too good to be true. Collectively they only have themselves to blame really, and to try and blame Supporters Direct is lamentable.

  14. Martin says:

    Yeah, the usual b******t from the likes of Munto “finance” is all Supporters Direct and the Notts County Trust’s fault…

    Are Notts County really this stupid? Heaven help them if so.

  15. Martin says:

    This is ridiculous and embarrassing blame-mongering.

    Who were SD supposed to support if not the elected heads of the Notts County Trust?

    Remove the log in your own eye first before blaming SD for this totally predictable nonsense.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>