It’s Time For Three Up Three Down Between League Two And The Football Conference


Ian began writing Twohundredpercent in May 2006. He lives in Brighton. He has also written for, amongst others, Pitch Invasion, FC Business Magazine, The Score, When Saturday Comes, Stand Against Modern Football and The Football Supporter. Ian was the first winner of the Socrates Award For Not Being Dead Yet at the 2010 NOPA awards for football bloggers.

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10 Responses

  1. Dermot O'Dreary says:

    I’d like to think that turkeys will vote for Christmas but it won’t happen any time soon. And none of the clubs promoted into the league over the past few seasons have done anything to try and accelerate change.

    The other problem is that, with the exception of those clubs who bought their way to promotion, none of the recently promoted teams have done anything other than become, at best, Division 4 mid-table fodder. And unless Wrexham manage to fail to win their annual battle against promotion, that won’t change in the next 12 months.

  2. moethebarman says:

    As a Wimbledon fan I’d happily have 3 up, 3 down. Looking at Luton’s plight over the last four seasons it makes sense to ensure that dropping to level five isn’t the worst thing that could happen. In fact, I’d go as far as 4 up, 4 down like there is between levels three and four.

    I certainly don’t agree that promoted teams have become nothing but mid-table fodder as Doncaster have shown this season. Dagenham & Redbridge certainly didn’t buy their way into League One. Shrewsbury seem to be doing ok too. Carlisle, Colchester and Yeovil are all ex-Conference clubs currently in League One.

  3. Bernard says:

    Remember Div 3 North and Div 3 South. I do.

    The answer is to merge the BSP with L2 and regionalise it.
    Keep 4 down from L1 – 2 to each of the regionalised divisions below as the BSP currently does to the BSN and BSS. No more Plymouth playing at Accrington or Ebbsfleet at Barrow – trips far too long without overnight stays – and beyond the finances of many of the clubs – let alone the supporters.

  4. Paul O'Mally says:

    It’s a bit of a farce really. Football League places are being taken up by two-bob clubs with wealthy owners buying artificial success, and traditional large clubs having a bad patch pay the ultimate price.

    I follow a Conference club (an ex-league one at that), but I think it should be kept at 2 places. A place in the Football League is the ultimate aim for any non-league club and the achievement of FL status should not be cheapened just for the benefit of the very same clubs who were voting against it for years back in the 80’s, 90’s and 00’s.

    You can bet your bottom dollar it is the likes of Luton, Cambridge, Stockport, Lincoln and Wrexham who are lobbying hard for an extra place. Unfortunately you can’t just change the rules to suit your current predicament – will these clubs lobby to close the door again once they are back in the FL? You made your bed by seeing so unbelievably bad as to relegated down here in the first place, now it’s time to lie in it.

  5. andy says:

    get over it ! most teams that come up from non league with the exception of former league teams have either bought their way up or have tinpot crowds,the exception being Daggers who have done well without splashing cash,crawley and fleetwoods bubble will burst eventually !!

  6. Yeoman says:

    Since the bottom 6 of League Two are all teams that recently came out of the Conference, doesn’t that suggest that too many low quality teams are being promoted ?

    In which cutting promotion from 2 to 1 (or possibly none) would be more sensible

  7. vyse says:

    I would argue that Yeovil Town and Stevenage have achieved significantly more than ‘mid-table div 4′ in recent years, whilst staying well within a financially stable environment.

  8. Dermot O'Dreary says:

    @Paul O’Mally – most of the clubs relegated are hardly what one would call perennial strugglers, but are paying a heavy price for one bad season (or the football authorities deciding to heavily enforce regulations they didn’t bother with previously, and haven’t done again since). I can’t speak for all of the clubs involved but I know that Luton have committed to lobby for 3 up/3 down should they make it back to the FL under the current rules.

    @Bernard – regionalisation as you suggest won’t happen, I suspect, as it effectively halves a club’s chances of promotion.

    @vyse – agree Yeovil have been a success story. Stevenage have done well, but to say they’re “staying well within a financially stable environment” is some way from being accurate, they are almost totally reliant on one benefactor.

  9. Troed Chwith Arfon says:

    @Dermot – “unless Wrexham manage to fail to win their annual battle against promotion…”

    I understand where you’re coming from with that, but I had to read it two or three times to work it out!!

    (Basically readers, it means, unless Wrexham finally get their fingers out and actually win the playoffs)

    C’mon Wrecsam!

  10. Dermot O'Dreary says:

    @Troed – I really hope they do – they deserve it after missing out last season.

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