A World Cup Finals Without Argentina?

Ian

Ian began writing Twohundredpercent in May 2006. He lives in Brighton. He has also written for, amongst others, Pitch Invasion, FC Business Magazine, The Score, When Saturday Comes, Stand Against Modern Football and The Football Supporter. Ian was the first winner of the Socrates Award For Not Being Dead Yet at the 2010 NOPA awards for football bloggers.

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10 Responses

  1. Wurzel says:

    What a shame ! We’ll sorely miss them !

    (Did I sound genuine? I hope not)

  2. ejh says:

    I’d miss them: my favourite South American team for more than twenty years.

    Pero no extrañaría la ignorancia inglesa.

  3. Gervillian Swike says:

    I’d miss them too. When Argentina play in the world cup, there’s real excitement, real drama. I’m afraid I find the Brazilian procession against the weaker teams, only to revert to a far more prosaic style against the stronger ones, quite uninspiring – although my anitpathy towards them might have more to do with those dreary montages we always see of the Brazilian crowd doing a conga, Carlos Alberto, and some idiot with no imagination shouting, “Goooooooooooooooooooooal”.

    I surely can’t be the only one!!

  4. Michael Wood says:

    Open Question: Is it harder for a “great” player to become a great manager than it is for a simply “good” player to become a great manager?

  5. Gervillian Swike says:

    Well there seems to be some evidence to suggest that. I think George Best once said it was almost impossible because what makes a great player great is almost instinctive, so it’s impossible to re-create that in other players, and it’s frustrating to see players that you are coaching unable to reach your own standards. Glenn Hoddle was famously frustrated as England manager with David Beckham for example. Beckenbauer, Cruyff and Platini were successful to a degree, and Dalglish was for a while too – but it seems to be those who are good players within a decent team who are then able to coach successfully, and to adapt to changing styles – Ferguson, George Graham before him, Capello, for example.

  6. I don’t think there are any rules. Beckenbauer, Cruyff and Platini always showed composure on the pitch and a degree of intelligence – Frank Rijkaard is another who made the transition reasonably successfully – although one side effect is that these very rich men have often bailed out of management earlier than one might have hoped. They didn’t need to stick around once the barbs started flying.

    Without being wise after the event, Maradona never looked to have the mentality to be a manager – he’s more of a street fighter and one of the lads. England’s nearest equivalent would have been to put Gazza in charge of the national team!

    Out of interest, was Pele ever a manager?

  7. Albert Ross says:

    A few years ago I read Leo McKinstry’s “Jack and Bobby” about the Charlton Brothers, and in some ways it highlighted some of the issues about management: the game came naturally to Bobby, and he didn’t have to think too hard about what he did. Jack, a more limited player, had to work harder and think harder to maximise his talent – and got involved with coaching and tactics much earlier as a result. No surprise then as to which one had more success as a manager.

    It isn’t impossible for a top player to become a top manager of course, but I’d suggest that the ones that do it best are those who not only have the talent as players but have shown signs during their career of being a step or two ahead tactically and strategically. The current trend for top players to transition straight away to managing top sides or even nations is a bit like throwing mud at a wall and hoping some of it sticks IMO – particularly when they’re being plunged into roles where coaching is only part of their remit.

  8. Really hard to believe initially. But players from other countries played very well.

  9. This is actually a very common problem with superstar performers. They are promoted to manage a team and they suck! Too bad, Maradona was one of my favorite players.

  1. September 14, 2009

    […] A World Cup Finals Without Argentina? 1930 World Cup Final ball Argentina “Now is not a particularly good time to be an Argentinian football supporter. Not only have their most loathed opposition – Brazil and England – already qualified for the finals of the 2010 World Cup, but there is a serious likelihood that the Albiceleste themselves might not even qualify for next year’s tournament in South Africa, and coach Diego Maradona is receiving hitherto unprecedented criticism in his home country.” (twohundredpercent) […]

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